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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the vampiric cats of Chinese legends? Twisted Evil Or the Itzpapaloti a Aztec demon who was a combination of a woman and a butterfly.She had stone knives on the edges of her wings and her tongue
was a stone knife too. Shocked love
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always liked the name Tlazoteotl... or Oxycotyl.

Does anyone know what the same of the Japanesse "Snow Princess" or "Snow Fairy" is? I always kinda liked that story too.

And, for me, zombies aren't necessarily "mystical" creatures... mostly because zombies work on the weird-shared emotion of "mass infection", which is one of the reasons the "Resident Evil" series is actually named "Biohazard" in the original.

In a lot of modern zombie lore, the fear that zombies cause isn't really from their super-human strength or endurance... but the idea of becoming infected and turning. Same sort of idea as the movie "The Thing" and its related short story "Who Goes There?" For whatever pshycological reason, being "clean" and not "infected" seems to get under everyone's skin. So, zombies push the envelope of the idea of a global plague. A plague that cannot be contained, and it is only a matter of time before you become infected.

Though... I always did wonder why zombies don't eat each other... isn't one brain as good as any other? And for those of you curious the whole "gotta shot them in the head" thingy evolved from a lot of the spagetti zombie movies of the 70s and 80s... which were later popularized by George Romero.

In older zombie lore, zombies are mind-controlled... more of a voodoo zombie thing. Which to me is funny, as vampires are often associated with zombies, but... often vampire powers are actually centered around bats and wolves, and being able to summon those creatures.

... Embarassed okay, I think I've rambled on long enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be honest the whole eating brains thing is kind of a joke in the seance that you would need your brain to become a zombie in the first place because of the fact that the only thing still alive in you is your brain it is still sending neural synapses to your body but they are only the basic functions like eat, and move the whole mass infection thing is really over rated in my opinion do to this fact.

now zombies eating other zombies is a good point seeing how the whole every ones a zombie and there's no more food, and in that seance then yes i would think they would eat each other out of just hunger

now that being said zombies have what i guess we could call a shelf life do to that fact that they are all dead and there bodies would decay like normal in fact that's where the whole them eating brains came in at they thought that if the zombie ate the brains of the living then there bodies would not decay.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many versions of the modern kind of zombie, some of which don't eat brains, but merely bite just to spread the infection. Some are fast, some are slow, some are pretty much impossible to kill (even a shot to the head doesn't kill them - I find that ridiculous). Personally, if it's one of those plague-like infecting zombies, I don't class it as mythical; like Johnny, I consider only something that goes back to folklore and such as mythical, and these kinds of zombies are more modern fiction than myth. So please, let's stop discussing them in a thread about mythical creatures, as they're not mythical creatures. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline wrote:
I always liked the name Tlazoteotl... or Oxycotyl.

Does anyone know what the same of the Japanesse "Snow Princess" or "Snow Fairy" is? I always kinda liked that story too.


The name you requested is Yuki-Onna. The Snow Queen, Lady of the snow or winter ghost. She often disappears in a white mist.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way Kitsune-kami or fox spirits love Tofu. In Japan noddles with tofu is called Kitsune ramen. woot bouncy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personally, if it's one of those plague-like infecting zombies, I don't class it as mythical; like Johnny, I consider only something that goes back to folklore and such as mythical, and these kinds of zombies are more modern fiction than myth. So please, let's stop discussing them in a thread about mythical creatures, as they're not mythical creatures. Wink
I don't know, I sort of half-way consider zombies as mythical creatures, if only because they're based on two (largely unrelated) mythical creatures: zombies and ghouls. Zombies are derived from the West African/Caribbean Vodoun (Voodoo) culture, and are basically resurrected corpses lacking any will (usually the result of Vodou sorcery). Ghouls are derived from Arabian tales of flesh-eating, demonic jinns that attack weary travelers, prey upon small children, rob graves, and eat the dead. Thanks to George Romero's Night of the Living Dead, both creatures have become mixxed together into one cannibalistic undead species popularly referred to as "zombies".

An interesting adendum, while watching the original Night of the Living Dead myself, I've noticed that no mention of "infection" is brought up, and that the reason behind the dead rising from their graves is never fully explained, though the likely culprit is radiation (explained on a radio report as coming from a space probe that exploded in the Earth's atmosphere). In this sense, the "cause" was built around Cold War era fears about radioactivity and nuclear explosions, as well as the usual fears of scientists stepping over boundaries they shouldn't have.

That second fear transfers over to more modern zombie-horror films (that are direct decendents of Night of the Living Dead); both 28 Days Later (which is less of a "zombie film" as a "plague film") and Resident Evil feature infections (the Rage Virus and the T-Virus, respectively) that were created in laboratories. The "infection" angle to the stories could be both related to vampire and werewolf fiction (which were usually referred to as "curses" rather than "infections" before modern times) and modern concerns over pandemic diseases (both in the forms of man-made, biological contaminants and in naturally occuring, extremely resilient "super-bugs")
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tearlach wrote:
Caroline wrote:
I always liked the name Tlazoteotl... or Oxycotyl.

Does anyone know what the same of the Japanesse "Snow Princess" or "Snow Fairy" is? I always kinda liked that story too.


The name you requested is Yuki-Onna. The Snow Queen, Lady of the snow or winter ghost. She often disappears in a white mist.
One of my favorite Japanese films, Kwaidan, features a story about a Yukionna. I highly recommend the movie to anyone who likes ghost stories.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythical creatures... hmmm...

I know! How 'bout the Wendigo or Raw Head and Bloody Bones?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wendigo I know. It's sort of a Canadian Yeti, for those of you who don't. But the Raw Head and Bloody Bones are new to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

same here mind telling the ones that don't know what those are
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raw Head and Bloody Bones was a sort of bogeyman that English peasantry used to scare their children into staying in bed at night.

"If you stray from bed, Raw Head and Bloody Bones will creep out from under the stairs and get you!"

He supposedly looked like a skeleton covered with blood and bits of skin.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats really....morbid
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No more then ring -a - ring of roses Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you mean ring around the rosy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_a_ring_of_roses

Either name is acceptable. Different places have different titles and lyrics. Tearlach, I believe you're referring to the fact that it is commonly known to refer to the black plague? That's not strictly true, as is mentioned in the Wikipedia entry I've linked to above. However, there is one children's song that really is morbid - Alouette. We sing it in French, and it doesn't seem too bad; translate it, though, and you'll be shocked. Laughing It's all about plucking a lark.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Raw Head and Bloody Bones was a sort of bogeyman that English peasantry used to scare their children into staying in bed at night.

"If you stray from bed, Raw Head and Bloody Bones will creep out from under the stairs and get you!"

He supposedly looked like a skeleton covered with blood and bits of skin.

Twisted Evil


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Simple simon met a pie man going to a fair, said simple simon to the pie man;what do you have there?
PIES YOU STUPID..@%$£&** Twisted Evil
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xick are you referring to the necrons from warhammer40k game because if your are all i have to say is


FOR THE IMPERIUM OF MAN!!!
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xick are you referring to the necrons from warhammer40k game because if your are all i have to say is


FOR THE IMPERIUM OF MAN!!!


CHARGE!!!!

but wheres our artillery?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

somebody call for an earth shaker

speaking of this would the orks and the chaos space marines be mythical
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somebody call for an earth shaker

speaking of this would the orks and the chaos space marines be mythical


hm... probably not seeing as they're just part of a huge story. probably have to check another 40000 years from now.
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Chaosengine wrote:
Raw Head and Bloody Bones was a sort of bogeyman that English peasantry used to scare their children into staying in bed at night.

"If you stray from bed, Raw Head and Bloody Bones will creep out from under the stairs and get you!"

He supposedly looked like a skeleton covered with blood and bits of skin.

Twisted Evil


This is from the 1992 BBC program broadcasted on Halloween of that year. Though the BBC denied it afterwards because of the uproar it caused, the program was set up to convince the viewers that the "Live broadcast" was real. It SCARED the fuck out of me, I was sitting alone watching it and that voice reciting ring -a-ring of roses.(shiver)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tPTDHEeLI0A&feature=related
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Tearlach:

It's been my experience that pretty much any children's rhyme or music can sound really creepy, spooky, and morbid.
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I've always loved genies, and it's what Doodles is as a character. See http://www.furaffinity.net/view/417194/ for a sample. =};-3
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To Tearlach:

It's been my experience that pretty much any children's rhyme or music can sound really creepy, spooky, and morbid.


actually people, there are a lot of old classic childrens rymes and story book that have hidden meanings. ring around the rosies was indeed originally created to teach kids about the plague and so they didn't forget what happened to the people who had it.

ring around the mulberry bush is a political struggle between the two governmental factions in the early 1800s. really made to be a joke m,ore than anything.

green egs and ham had to deal with racism....yes you heard me raacism.....think about it......you'll get it.

i could name more but then i'd be ranting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To Tearlach:

It's been my experience that pretty much any children's rhyme or music can sound really creepy, spooky, and morbid.


I am refering to the voice in the program which preported to come from a poltergeist.The program its self was based on a true life poltergeist haunting in a house in Enfield, England in 1977. Shocked

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a7G4QImu3ic&feature=realated
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tearlach,

I know... I was more just saying that, to me, a lot of children's nursery rhymes, even without being done all spooky like, are still really creepy.

You know what else really creeps me out? Real, porcelin dolls... I don't know what it is about those things... in the daytime, they look all pretty and really cool... and at night, I swear those things watch me... just waiting for me to go to bed, so they can suffocate me.

Geeze did I hate my mom's collection of porcelin dolls...*shivers*

It's one of the reasons I really hate the whole clown scene from poltergeist.
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Caroline wrote:
You know what else really creeps me out? Real, porcelin dolls... I don't know what it is about those things... in the daytime, they look all pretty and really cool... and at night, I swear those things watch me... just waiting for me to go to bed, so they can suffocate me.


Well, it's true. Those things are evil incarnate and anyone who says otherwise is in league with them. Proven fact.

Speaking of creepy nursery ryhmes, my favorite is "Twiddle dee dum and twiddle dee dee, the old gray lady is after me. She wants my shoes, she wants my skin, there's no such size she can't fit in." The old gray lady being refered to is also known as the Hag, a mythical creature which stalked the night and killed whoever it came across and took their form by wearing their skin.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow Ashton the hag is a bad one did not think any one would bring her up here and as for her what about the sirens, and Medusa...
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